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Why I left islam, four ex muslims tell their story
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Why I left islam, four ex muslims tell their story
ahmed khan Posted on 1/9/2005 4:28:30 PM msgId:10688
Hi, I was born in a pakistani family in the UK. I was a major fundamentalist
Muslim. I had absolute faith in Islam and i loved it very much. However
after reading the koran a few times i started to wonder about some of
the verses. There were things in the koran that were making me nervous,
also the many stories about Mohammed were also cause for concern. The
conquest and subjugation of the jews was rather disturbing, so to was
the rape of many women. I didn't want to believe this and i started to
say to myself that these stories are lies. However the thought of my faith
was eating my mind, slowly, slowly i was being torn apart by this dilemma.
I finally wrote down some of the problems I had with the koran and the
story of mohammed. I went to mosque and asked the mulavi sahib about these
issues i had with islam. He tried his best to explain but its like i knew
that he wasn't going to be able to justify some of the atrocities committed
However the part where he got stuck was the Aisha question. How can a
man of more than 50 years old have sexual feelings for a girl of only
6! After he gave me a dissatisfactory answer i just went quiet and walked
away. I was out the door and i looked back, He looked at me and he put
his head down... i think he knew i wasn't going to come back. Since then
i have been rather heart broken as i have lost my faith. Islam is a falsehood,
a pure hoax. I felt that I might as well believe in santa claus or the
boogie man! I wish i could believe again, but as a normal and respectable
human being i cant believe in a man who is a pedophile! Simple as that.
I cant comprehend the fact that a man of that age can fantasize about
a 6 year old, and then have sex with her while she was still playing with
her dolls! And why is it that a woman is lower than a man? is my mother
lower than me? why is it that a muslim can have 4 wives? can a woman not
have 4 husbands then? and why did mohammed have more than 4 wives? doesn't
he believe in practice what you preach! Also how can i believe a man with
such low moral character? how can i believe in a man who does things which
i myself find abhorrent and disgusting, a man like him today instead of
being in a mosque would actually be in prison and a 7 year jail sentence
for rape, and child molestation. For the cultural reasons given for this
act (by the so called scholars) of mohammeds marriage with a 6 year old
are irrelevant! Now SANE man in any time or place would have sexual feelings
for a baby! This is reason enough for denouncing islam. For this man is
not from God. And islam is just the ramblings of some dillusioned Arab
mad man. All this religion has done is cause pain and misery for the world.
Especially India where the mass murder of hindus was unforgiveable. No
country suffered more than Hindu India. As for other religions at least
the so called enemies of islam such as Sikhism, hinduism and buddhism
etc., dont have their religious leaders d
oing such disgusting things or being complete hypocrites! Im still a right
wing, conservative but im not a sucker and i'm not gonna let this nut
case ideology ruin my life anymore. Even Jesus wasn't anything like this
fiend mohammed! I'm just glad i got out while i could, and i just hope
that all the other muslims finally get their facts right and come to their
senses. They should DUMP this evil satanic cult immediately, and do with
the koran as is done with all other piles of useless TRASH! - commit it
to the FLAMES! Any way, thank you for your time, Thanks...
Why I Left Islam
By Ali Sina
I am often asked, Why I left Islam?. As absurd as it may be, some Muslims
cannot even allow themselves to think that leaving Islam is an option,
or even possible. They rather think that those who leave Islam are paid
Jewish agents than accept the fact that people have freedom to think and
some may even think that Islam is not for them. The following are my reasons.
Not until few years ago I used to think that my faith in Islam was not
based on blind imitation but rather was the result of years of investigation
and research. The fact that I had read a lot of books on Islam, written
by people whose thoughts I approved of and delving into philosophies that
were within my comfort zone, emphasized my conviction that I had found
the truth. All my bias research confirmed my faith. Just like other Muslims
I used to believe that to learn about anything one has to go to the source.
Of course the source of Islam is Quran and the books written by Muslim
scholars. Therefore, I felt no need to look elsewhere in order to find
the truth, as I was convinced that I have already found it. As Muslims
say "Talabe ilm ba'd az wossule ma'loom mazmoom". The search
of knowledge after gaining it is foolish
Of course, this is a foolish idea. What if we want to learn the truth
about one of these dangerous cults? Is it enough to depend only on what
the cult leader and his deluded followers say? Wouldn't it be prudent
to widen our research and find out what other people have to say about
them? Going to the source makes sense only in scientific matters, because
scientists are not "believers". They do not say something because
they have blind faith. Scientists make a critical analysis of the evidence.
It is very much different from religious approach that is based entirely
on faith and belief.
I suppose it was my acquaintance with the western humanistic values that
made me more sensitive and whet my appetite for democracy, freethinking,
human rights, equality, etc. It was then that when I read again Quran
I came across injunctions that were not al par with my newfound humanistic
values, I was distressed and felt very uncomfortable to read teachings
"But those who reject Faith after they accepted it, and then go on
adding to their defiance of Faith,- never will their repentance be accepted;
for they are those who have gone astray".
"Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except
under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open
their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will
be a dreadful Penalty."
One may think that the dreadful penalty mentioned here pertains to the
next word. But Muhammad made sure that these people received their penalty
in this world as well. See the following:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 61, Number 577:
I heard the Prophet saying, "In the last days (of the world) there
will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give
good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its
game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find
them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 63, Number 260:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had
I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said,
'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have
killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his
religion, kill him.' "
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 63, Number 261:
Eight men of the tribe of 'Ukil came to the Prophet and then they found
the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. So, they said, "O Allah's
Apostle! Provide us with some milk." Allah's Apostle said, "I
recommend that you sh ould join the herd of camels." So they went
and drank the urine and the milk of the camels (as a medicine) till they
became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the
camels, and they became unbelievers after they were Muslims. When the
Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their
pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and he had their
hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered for nails, which were heated and
passed over their eyes, and they were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land
in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water
till they died.
And from Partial Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud Book
38, Number 4339
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) Said: The blood of a Muslim man
who testifies that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's
Apostle should not lawfully be shed except only for one of three reasons:
a man who committed fornication after marriage, in which case he should
be stoned; one who goes forth to fight with Allah and His Apostle, in
which case he should be killed or crucified or exiled from the land; or
one who commits murder for which he is killed.
The following is very disturbing. I dare to say any man who read it and
is not taken aback with disgust has a long way to go to become a human.
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4348
"Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas:
A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him)
and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her
but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the
Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed
it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between
her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came,
the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it.
He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done
this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up.
Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up.
He sat before the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Apostle of Allah!
I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her,
but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit.
I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night
she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her
belly and pressed it till I killed her.
Thereupon the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation
is payable for her blood".
I felt the above story was a manifest injustice. Muhammad condoned a
man killing a pregnant mother and his own unborn child just because he
said that she insulted him!?
(Arabs used to sleep with their maid slaves. Quran perpetuates this tradition
Q.33: 52 "It is not lawful for thee (to marry more) women after this,
nor to change them for (other) wives, even though their beauty attract
thee, except any thy right hand should possess (as handmaidens): and Allah
doth watch over all things." Muhammad himself slept with Mariyah
the maid slave of Hafsa his wife without marrying her.)
Forgiving someone for killing another human being just because he said
she insulted Muhammad is unacceptable. What if that man was lying to escape
punishment? What dose this story say about Muhammad's sense of Justice?
Imagine how many innocent women, were killed by their husbands during
these 1400 years who escaped punishment accusing their murdered wives
of blaspheming the prophet of God and this Hadith has made them get away
Here is another one.
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4349
Narrated Ali ibn AbuTalib:
A Jewess used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him.
A man strangled her till she died. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him)
declared that no recompense was payable for her blood.
It was not easy to read these stories and not be moved. There is no reason
to believe that all these stories were fabricated. Why should believers,
who have tried to depict their prophet as a compassionate man fabricate
so many stories that would make him look like ruthless tyrant?
I could no more accept the brutal treatment of those who chose not to
accept Islam. Faith is a personal matter. I could no more accept that
the punishment of someone who criticizes any religion must be death.
See how Muhammad dealt with the unbelievers.
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4359
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas:
The verse "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and
His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land
is execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from
opposite side or exile from the land...most merciful" was revealed
about polytheists. If any of them repents before they are arrested, it
does not prevent from inflicting on him the prescribed punishment, which
How could a messenger of God maim and crucify people on the account that
they resist accepting him? Could such person be really a messenger of
God? Wasn't there a better man with more moral an ethical fortitude to
bear this mighty responsibility?
I could not accept the fact that Muhammad slaughtered 900 Jews in one
day, after he captured them in a raid that he started. I read the following
story and I shivered.
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4390
Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined
us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those
who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair
Also I found following story shocking.
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4396
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah:
A thief was brought to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him). He said: Kill
him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! Then he
said: Cut off his hand. So his (right) hand was cut off. He was brought
a second time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed
theft, Apostle of Allah! Then he said:
Cut off his foot.
So his (left) foot was cut off.
He was brought a third time and he said: Kill him.
The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah!
So he said: Cut off his hand. (So his (left) hand was cut off.)
He was brought a fourth time and he said: Kill him.
The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah!
So he said: Cut off his foot. So his (right) foot was cut off.
He was brought a fifth time and he said: Kill him.
So we took him away and killed him. We then dragged him and cast him into
a well and threw stones over him.
Seems that Muhammad passed judgment before hearing the case. Also by
cutting a thief's hand he is left with no other means to earn his bread
except begging, which would be difficult since he is defamed as a thief
and so hated by people. Therefore re-offending becomes his only means
After living many years in the West and being received kindly by people
of other religions or of no religion, who loved me and accepted me as
their friend; who let me into their lives and their heart. I could no
more accept the following mandates of Quran as the words of God.
"You will not find any people who believe in Allaah and the Last
Day, making friendship with those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger
"O you who believe! Take not as (your) bitaanah (advisors, consultants,
protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans,
Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their
best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already
appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse.
Indeed We have made clear to you the aayaat (proofs, evidence, verses),
if you understand. Lo! You are the ones who love them but they love you
not, and you believe in all the Scriptures [i.e., you believe in the Tawraat
and the Injeel, while they disbelieve in your Book (the Qur'aan)]. And
when they meet you, they say, 'We believe.' But when they are alone, they
bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: 'Perish in your rage.
Certainly Allaah knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets).' If a
good befalls you, it grieves them, but some evil overtakes you, they rejoice
"O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as awliya'
(friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but awliya' to one another
I also found the above statement false. The evidence is in the Bosnia
and Kosovo crisis; where Christian countries, waged war against another
Christian country, to liberate Muslims. Many Jewish doctors volunteered
to help the Kosovar refugees, despite the fact that during the WWII, the
same Albanian Muslims took side with Hitler and helped him in his holocaust
against the Jews.
It became obvious to me that Muslims are accepted by all the people of
the world yet our prophet wants us to hate them, to disassociate ourselves
from them, to force them into our way of life or kill them, subdue them
and make them pay Jizya. How silly! How pathetic! How inhumane! No wonder
there is so much inexplicable hate of the West and of the Jews among Muslims.
It was Muhammad who inseminated the hate and the distrust of the non-believers
among his followers. How Muslims can ever integrate with other nations
while holding these hateful massages of Quran as the words of God?
There are many Muslims who immigrate to non-Muslim countries and are
received with open arms. Many of them get into politics and become part
of the ruling elite. We suffer no discrimination in the non-Islamic countries.
But see how our holy prophet tells us to deal with non-Muslims were we
are the majority.
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold
that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor
acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of
the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves
I also find the following verses completely against my conscience. I
love all humanity and wish everyone to be happy in this world and forgiven
in the next. But my holy prophet bade me not to seek forgiveness for the
unbelievers even if they are my parents and beloved ones.
(Interpretation of the meaning by Muhsin Khan):
"It is not (proper) for the Prophet and those who believe to ask
Allaah's forgiveness for the mushrikeen, even though they be of kin, after
it has become clear to them that they are the dwellers of the Fire (because
they died in state of disbelief)."
Quarn and Ahadith are full of outrageous verses like these that to me
are clear proof that Muhammad was not a prophet, but a cult leader. To
force people to denounce their own family is what cults do. He was an
impostor who lied so loudly and so forcefully that the ignorant people
of his time believed in him. Then the following generations echoed this
lies passing it to the next. Philosophers and writers were born in this
atmosphere of lies and elaborated on it, embellished it, and made it credible.
But when you go to the core of it, when you read Quran and study the Ahadith
you see it is nothing but lie.
I know my words can be upsetting. But I urge you, to take control of
your anger, read my other articles and muse on them.
As you see my rejection of Islam is not based on the bad deeds of Muslims
but on the bad deeds of its author. All the cruelties and heinous acts
of violence, perpetrated by Muslims throughout the centuries were inspired
by Quran and Sunnah (the example of the prophet) That is why I condemn
Islam for the bad things that Muslims do. I know any effort to humanize
the Islamic community is a waste of time. The enemy is Islam and that
is the target of my attacks. I do that despite having become the magnet
of the hatred of all fanatical Muslims. There is no gain in this for me.
The only reason I am so adamant against Islam is to liberate the world
from the claws of this satanic cult and restore peace and prosperity,
love and amity amongst the children of man.
By. Ali Sina
Re: Why I left islam , Why I left islam
Naik Z Posted on 1/9/2005 4:21:15 PM msgId:10687
My View of Islam and Why I Left It
Thu, 8 Feb 2001
My reason for leaving Islam is very simple. I simply read the Quran.
For me it was as easy as just reading the Quran and using a little reason,
logic, and thinking.
I thought the story of the Noah's Ark that is recorded in the Quran is
one of the most bizarre stories I have ever heard. Apparently the world
was run over by water and the only survivors were the people who had followed
Noah. Noah apparently had the ability to communicate with animals to ask
them to come aboard the ship, so that their species do not extinct.
Back then the early Arabs looked around themselves and they saw a few
camels and a couple of dogs and they thought that these are all the animals
in the world. They were unaware of the fact that there are over a billions
species in the world and some that haven't even been discovered yet. What
about the animals that did not live in Arabia? Did Noah fly on a winged
horse like Muhammad, to go and collect the animals from all around the
world? What about the species that we are unable to see without a microscope?
How did Noah collect them? Most importantly in the research of earth-biology
we have discovered all the facts about the earth and its past. Can anyone
find in any book of earth-biology any evidence that proves that the earth
was once over taken by water?
This was enough for me to realize that the Quran is just
a book of fables.
People will show you facts that according to the Quran the sun sets in
a pond, or that mountains are pegs that Allah installed on the earth to
keep it from moving and I can go on and on, but the only flaw of the Quran
is not what is in it. The biggest flaw of the Quran is what is not in
it. There are many many crimes a person can commit, yet the Quran only
mentions the punishments for only a mere 3 or 4 crimes. I was astonished
at the fact that the Quran mentions nothing about the punishment for rape.
The word rape is not even mentioned once in the Quran as if it is not
worth bringing it up. Apparently Allah thought that it is worthwhile to
repeat praying and paying alms to his prophet, over 1000 times but rape
is not worth mentioning. When you read the Hadithes about the obvious
rape of Safiyah the Jewish women by Muhammad and then you back it up with
the verse (Q. 4:24) and you also realize that this is not considered a
crime according to the Quran, it all starts to fold to
gether and make sense.
There are an unlimited number of acts of kindness that we can use to
help each other and make this world a better place for everyone, yet you
do not see these in the Quran. How can the Quran be a perfect guidance
from god when it lacks so many important issues?
What I have done for the last six months on the internet is debate with
Muslims and try to show them the light of truth.
When you debate with a Muslim and they don't know what to say they always
say "god is the author of the Quran because that's what it says in
the Quran." It is absurd to prove something by itself. Sometimes
when I hear these responses I feel like giving up on exposing the truth
about Islam and religion, but then I realize that I would be abandoning
my dear friends like Dr. Ali Sina and the many people who have given their
lives for the truth.
_From a Dutch Moroccan Apostate_ http://www.faithfreedom.org
Dear Ali Sina,
I'm from the Netherlands . I left Islam and wanted to share my story
you and other apostates. I'm from Morocco and like many Moroccans I immigrated
to Holland . I used to be a very passionate Muslim but a few years ago
began to question Islam.
Before it I had found many contradictions in the Quran, but I was blind
decided not to think about it.
Then I met a Dutch woman and it was love at first sight. She was a feminist
and strangely enough I agreed to tolerate it. But I loved her intelligence
and her self-esteem. I didn't want to have four wives because I love only
woman. Soon I became a feminist myself! But I didn't leave Islam because
parents told that Islam was a pro-feminist religion (rubbish). Then my
pregnant. My father told me that I had to forbid her from working. But
could I? She's an independent human being. She didn't want to stop her
career. Father said I was the head of the family and I could demand whatever
wanted from her. I said we were equal. He named me a fool. But I didn't
Then my baby girl was born. My father said I didn't have to speak to
for some weeks. I was astonished. I looked at my baby girl and promised
would never suffer like other Muslimahs. She will be independent and
self-sufficient like her mother. I left Islam the day my daughter was
Soon afterwards Holland was astounded to hear the latest news
Theo Van Gogh was the last straw. I knew, something like that was going
happen. If you knew what Imams are preaching in mosques across Holland
would understand that there is nothing strange with killing of this poor
I ran away with my wife and daughter and now we are hiding in The Hague
My wife earns more money than me, but I'm not belittled by it. She wants
have a career and I support her. We won't have more children because she's
busy woman and I don't want to make her a breeding machine. We have a
I love my daughter and I am not disappointed by not having a son.
I thought of becoming a Christian but then I decided to follow your motto.
Now I'm a prophet myself I'm probably even better than Mohammed. :)))))))
P.S. I wanted to write some verses from Quran that made me question Islam
but I have no time. You know
a small daughter, wife and work
If you, dear Mr. Sina, are a father or even have a daughter, you will
rstand why I decided to join your united forces against Muslims.
I'm a bit nervous about writing this testimony because my own father wants
to see me dead. But it's very important. The whole world needs to learn
truth about Islam.
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